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Subject: Re: Patenting Vitamins
Author: Jan Drew
Date: 27 Jun
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"Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> while i am in agreement that there is much in need of change re the fda
> and other gov offices as to how, why, and with whom they collaborate
> in the decision making process of regulation and enforcement - this
> bunch lobbies against virtually any proposal, regulation, or activity in
> the name of 'protecting' the individual - all the while making an
> extremely good living promoting their own products and services free
> from the very same regulations that the pharmas have to abide by -
> regulations that when applied fairly do help to protect the public good.
>
>
> the website, naturenews, owned by a registered taiwanese corp - 'truth
> publishing', with anonymous site registration, is situated outside the
> usa 'specifically' for the purpose of not being under the jurisdiction
> of any us fed or state laws
>
> their own words:
>
> "Furthermore, NaturalNews.com will never share its subscriber database
> with any government agency such as the FDA. In fact, Truth Publishing
> (the company that owns NaturalNews.com) operates outside the United
> States and does not answer to U.S. authorities."
>
>
> as to the statements, claims, or commentaries made - while they claim to
> be so independent of advertising and the like -
>
> in realty they are the creation of the supplement industry and the
> primary listed editor/author is a guy named mike adams - easy to find
> here in the states with seminars, books, etc.

Is that right? Please do show this *in reality*.

Mike Adams tells it like it is.
Period.

>
> while i have occasionally read an unbiased piece they've put out - the
> overwhelming majority is so slanted it cannot be read as 'news' of any
> sort -
>
> the 'truth' of their publishing is that they don't want to be bothered
> with having you know who they really are - while they write promoting a
> very particular agenda of let us do whatever we want.

Not so. Mike Adams's agenda is to tell the *truth* and expose organized
medicine,
Which includes Big Phrama, FDA, CDC, AMA, ADA, etc., and their lies.
>
> they are simply pushing product, no diff from the medical pharmas that
> they rail against

Blatant lie.
>
> their interest is in trying to protect themselves from
> having to be regulated as to product purity,
> efficacy as shown by studies and trials vs the 'claims' made
> anecdotally,
>
Another blatant lie.

> and, they sell a lot of their books as of result of the other website(s)

Correct. So what?
Peter Bowditch posts his spam, books, things to sell and his many lies.

It is noted you have never mentioned that.

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> Ron Peterson wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 26, 9:53 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > Health Freedom Warning: Drug Company Seeks to Outlaw Vitamin B6 to
>> > Protect Pharma Profits
>>
>> > www.naturalnews.com/023514.html
>>
>> FDALawBlog gives the following less biased take:
>> Medicure Pharma submitted a citizen petition to FDA that asserts that
>> all dietary supplements containing pyridoxal 5'-phosphate ("P5P
>> supplements") are adulterated under FDC Act § 402(f). The petition
>> asserts that P5P (a form of vitamin B6) is a new dietary ingredient
>> which has neither been present in the food supply as an article used
>> for food in a form in which the food has not been chemically altered,
>> nor has it been the subject of a new dietary ingredient notification.
>> The petition further asserts that those supplements were therefore not
>> lawfully marketed prior to the date on which the investigation of P5P
>> as a drug triggered the dietary supplement exclusionary clause in FDC
>> Act § 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii). The petition asks FDA to remove all P5P
>> supplements from the market, or in the alternative, to initiate
>> rulemaking under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) to exclude them from the
>> statutory definition of a dietary supplement. Medicure Pharma is
>> investigating a drug product under an Investigational New Drug
>> Application that contains P5P as its active ingredient, and the
>> company contends that marketing of P5P supplements undermines the
>> company's incentive to continue developing its drug product.
>>
>> The success or failure of the petition will turn on a few issues.
>> First, the petition contends that P5P is a new dietary ingredient
>> because it was not marketed before October 15, 1994. This is certain
>> to prompt a thorough search on the part of P5P supplement
>> manufacturers for evidence of marketing prior to that date. Second,
>> the petition contends that P5P has not been "present in the food
>> supply as an article used for food" within the meaning of FDC Act §
>> 413(a)(1) because the presence of P5P in foods is "incidental."
>> However, the Institute of Medicine recognizes that P5P is one of the
>> major forms of vitamin B6 in animal tissues, and that animal tissues
>> are a source of vitamin B6. Third, the petition contends that even
>> extensive marketing of a dietary supplement does not forestall
>> application of the dietary supplement exclusionary clause if the
>> supplement was marketed unlawfully. Although the petition acknowledges
>> that a plain reading of the exclusionary clause does not support this
>> view, the petition asks FDA to read the term "lawfully" (as in
>> "lawfully marketed") into the exclusionary clause on the ground that
>> not doing so would yield absurd results. Finally, the petition
>> contends that, even if P5P is lawfully marketed as a dietary
>> supplement, FDA can prohibit any further marketing under section
>> 201(ff)(3)(A) to help preserve incentives for new drug development. In
>> doing so, the petition fails to acknowledge that FDA's rulemaking
>> authority under FDC Act § 201(ff)(3)(A) is tied to a finding of
>> adulteration under § 402(f), a finding that could be difficult to
>> support in the case of a form of vitamin B6.
>>
>> --
>> Ron



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